Thanks to the hosts of the Buried Lede Podcast, Fred Shruers and Tom Teicholz

Listen here:

Sager is this edition’s Buried Lede. His part starts at about 15:35.

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/b/5/d/b5dbf65837cb7bd1/Podcast_2_28_19.mp3?c_id=36001811&cs_id=36001811&expiration=1551830743&hwt=9efd22401883c862f998702175609bc6

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